Jay DeFeo oral history interview excerpt (audio)

“I really wasn’t aware of how flamboyant it [“The Rose”] had become. I had been so involved in the thing, and suddenly I walked into the studio one day, and the whole thing seemed to have gotten completely out of hand. I felt that it really needed to be pulled back to something more classic in character. That again, became a kind of tearing back of the thing. Every time this happened, it was the work of a sculptor as well as a painter, because of the nature of the material. It actually had to be carved and hacked. It was a very hard physical job.” Oral history interview with Jay DeFeo, 1975 June 3-1976 Jan. 23, Archives of American Art, Smithsonian Institution.